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Let's Use this As the Car Wash Blog Board to have a record of conversations.
Here's the note from the Paul dude
Phil
If still interested> Please respond.
Do you want to set up a call date and time per our
conversation? If so let me know several days in
advance. To better prepare me, I will need to know
some info about the general area (I will ultimately
produce Demographics etc. for our analysis).
Look forward to our call-this is something we do on a
regular basis, moreover, I'll have a reference for
your brother that has appraised carwashes all
throughout the US. I work in concert with other
professionals to put together projects to include
feasibility studies ultimately working with the lender
of record to provide financing for the project.
Prior to our conversation I will send a simple fee
agreement which will indicate the terms, rate and
method of payment.
Paul Dadgar
=====
Irvine Advisory Group, LLC
2929 Edinger Avenue
Tustin, California 92780
888-870-9774
Here's the note from the Paul dude
Phil
If still interested> Please respond.
Do you want to set up a call date and time per our
conversation? If so let me know several days in
advance. To better prepare me, I will need to know
some info about the general area (I will ultimately
produce Demographics etc. for our analysis).
Look forward to our call-this is something we do on a
regular basis, moreover, I'll have a reference for
your brother that has appraised carwashes all
throughout the US. I work in concert with other
professionals to put together projects to include
feasibility studies ultimately working with the lender
of record to provide financing for the project.
Prior to our conversation I will send a simple fee
agreement which will indicate the terms, rate and
method of payment.
Paul Dadgar
=====
Irvine Advisory Group, LLC
2929 Edinger Avenue
Tustin, California 92780
888-870-9774
Car Wash . . . working at the car wash yeah.
Throw out some dates for a conference call . . .
I will be out of town starting January 28th.
Throw out some dates for a conference call . . .
I will be out of town starting January 28th.
Phil
I will have my office send our Consultancy Agreement.
It may seem a little exhaustive for your initial
request, but in general it will include our fee at
$250 per hour // min of 2 hours. All such fees are
paid by cashiers check, in advance (until/if we
develope a retainer type agreement-min retainer is
$5000). I need about a week advance warning for the
inital call (this will give you time to send a check).
I anticipated no more than 2 hours initially based on
your synopsys of the call. If the relationship
expands we will expand the scope of the agreement as
well.
Best regards
--- Funoka@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the follow-up. One of my brothers just
> returned from vacation
> and we will discuss this weekend. It will be sooner
> rather than later, because
> they are now scouting areas with a commercial real
> estate buddy of theirs.
>
> Why don't you go ahead and e-mail me or send the
> agreement to me, and we can
> get that out of the way. As I think I mentioned, I
> live in Northern VA, but
> my brother are in suburban Minneapolis, where the
> car wash will be. Thanks
> again, Phil
>
> Phil Ingrassia
> 8819 Skokie Lane
> Vienna VA 22182
> (703) 622-8660 (Cell)
>
I will have my office send our Consultancy Agreement.
It may seem a little exhaustive for your initial
request, but in general it will include our fee at
$250 per hour // min of 2 hours. All such fees are
paid by cashiers check, in advance (until/if we
develope a retainer type agreement-min retainer is
$5000). I need about a week advance warning for the
inital call (this will give you time to send a check).
I anticipated no more than 2 hours initially based on
your synopsys of the call. If the relationship
expands we will expand the scope of the agreement as
well.
Best regards
--- Funoka@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the follow-up. One of my brothers just
> returned from vacation
> and we will discuss this weekend. It will be sooner
> rather than later, because
> they are now scouting areas with a commercial real
> estate buddy of theirs.
>
> Why don't you go ahead and e-mail me or send the
> agreement to me, and we can
> get that out of the way. As I think I mentioned, I
> live in Northern VA, but
> my brother are in suburban Minneapolis, where the
> car wash will be. Thanks
> again, Phil
>
> Phil Ingrassia
> 8819 Skokie Lane
> Vienna VA 22182
> (703) 622-8660 (Cell)
>
MATT HELMS: Car washers catch up on all the dirty details
BY MATT HELMS
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
January 18, 2005
This week, the car-wash industry gathers at the Novi Expo Center to talk strategy and show off the latest in technology and car-care products during the 2005 Midwest Carwash Association Expo trade show.
It's like the auto show of the car washes. Just don't expect to get your car washed here. That would be like going to Cobo expecting to take a hot concept car for a spin down Jefferson.
It's no small industry. The International Carwash Association in Chicago estimates that the nation's 90,000 car washes -- that includes coin-operated self-serve washes, gas-station types and automated car washes -- do $22.4 billion in business a year.
And Detroit, it should be known, is considered the birthplace of automated car washing: The first such facility, Paul's Car Wash, opened on Fort Street in downtown Detroit in 1946.
About 90,000 car washes; $22.4 billion a year? I couldn't let an event like this go without posing a few questions. For one, is the song "Car Wash" -- that 1970s disco ditty by the band Rose Royce -- the national anthem of the car wash industry? (Or have car-wash people at least made peace with it?)
I tracked down Donn Eurich, 51, of Lansing, the executive director of the Midwest Carwash Association, for 10 questions:
1. Not that it'll stop me from dropping references to that awful disco song, but aren't you completely disgusted by now with people who sing it to you?
Oh, yeah. "Car wash, yeah."
2. What's all this about "touch" at car washes?
You can go to a car wash where you have sprayers that use high-pressure water to clean. Then you have the kind with the wraps that spin around and hit the car. It's just a preference. I don't know if there's one that's better than the other. It's like wine; some people drink red and some people drink white. Both of them will get your car clean.
3. What is the show about?
It's a buying show. It's a place for people who are in the business ... for one-stop shopping. They can see six different providers of towels. You pretty much name the components of the car-wash industry, and you'll have multiple suppliers of that component at the show. We're having a session Tuesday morning ... to go over what to look for when hiring employees ... and how to keep them.
4. There's strategy to find good employees? So the boss does mind sometimes if you act the fool?
Part of it's being friendly, and part of it's having fun. You make it a good experience to make the customer want to come back.
5. What are some of the latest advancements in the field?
The main thing is the equipment is getting more efficient. And another part is making the equipment flexible enough to accommodate cars of all different shapes. If I'm driving a Yukon or an Escalade as opposed to a Grand Am, the equipment needs to recognize that the vehicle is a different size and adjust.
6. Shouldn't car-wash owners encourage their employees not to touch customers' heater or radio settings?
I have experienced it myself; it's like an invasion of privacy. It's a minor thing but it's still an intrusion on privacy. I think all wash owners would be well served by reminding their employees not to do that.
7. Can you really make a good living working at the car wash? Is it better than diggin' a ditch?
Absolutely. The typical wash does 60,000 washes a year. If you're looking at $8 or $10 a wash, that's not a small business by any stretch. The people doing the wash, they're at the ground level. You have to start somewhere. You get work experience for future opportunities.
8. Do you work with the auto companies to make car washes easier on cars?
When we get reports in from our operators that there may be some faulty mirror, trim or antennae with a vehicle, we'll alert the automaker. We wouldn't wash Grand Ams for a while because the driver's side mirror, the screws that went into the door, weren't strong enough. In some cases, the wraps would grab and loosen the mirror. It wasn't because the wraps were doing something wrong. GM fixed that.
9. What do you drive, and how often do you get it washed?
I drive a 2004 Yukon. ... This time of year, I probably shoot for every 10 days, usually three to four times a month.
10. Do you always get the underbody flush, or do you cheap out like I do and just get the basic cleaning?
It depends, to be very honest with you. If I've been driving on dirt roads to visit my stepson, I'll have to follow that up with a high-end comprehensive wash because the wheel wells get dirty. It depends on the level of crud that's on the car.
More than 250 exhibitors will be at the car-wash expo 11 a.m.-6 p.m. today and 11 a.m.-4 p.m. Wednesday. Admission is $15 if you're not a member of the MCA. For information, go to www.midwestcarwash.com
Contact MATT HELMS at driving@freepress.com -- e-mail is best -- or leave a message at 313-222-1450. Be sure to include your full name, the city where you live and day and evening phone numbers for verification.
BY MATT HELMS
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
January 18, 2005
This week, the car-wash industry gathers at the Novi Expo Center to talk strategy and show off the latest in technology and car-care products during the 2005 Midwest Carwash Association Expo trade show.
It's like the auto show of the car washes. Just don't expect to get your car washed here. That would be like going to Cobo expecting to take a hot concept car for a spin down Jefferson.
It's no small industry. The International Carwash Association in Chicago estimates that the nation's 90,000 car washes -- that includes coin-operated self-serve washes, gas-station types and automated car washes -- do $22.4 billion in business a year.
And Detroit, it should be known, is considered the birthplace of automated car washing: The first such facility, Paul's Car Wash, opened on Fort Street in downtown Detroit in 1946.
About 90,000 car washes; $22.4 billion a year? I couldn't let an event like this go without posing a few questions. For one, is the song "Car Wash" -- that 1970s disco ditty by the band Rose Royce -- the national anthem of the car wash industry? (Or have car-wash people at least made peace with it?)
I tracked down Donn Eurich, 51, of Lansing, the executive director of the Midwest Carwash Association, for 10 questions:
1. Not that it'll stop me from dropping references to that awful disco song, but aren't you completely disgusted by now with people who sing it to you?
Oh, yeah. "Car wash, yeah."
2. What's all this about "touch" at car washes?
You can go to a car wash where you have sprayers that use high-pressure water to clean. Then you have the kind with the wraps that spin around and hit the car. It's just a preference. I don't know if there's one that's better than the other. It's like wine; some people drink red and some people drink white. Both of them will get your car clean.
3. What is the show about?
It's a buying show. It's a place for people who are in the business ... for one-stop shopping. They can see six different providers of towels. You pretty much name the components of the car-wash industry, and you'll have multiple suppliers of that component at the show. We're having a session Tuesday morning ... to go over what to look for when hiring employees ... and how to keep them.
4. There's strategy to find good employees? So the boss does mind sometimes if you act the fool?
Part of it's being friendly, and part of it's having fun. You make it a good experience to make the customer want to come back.
5. What are some of the latest advancements in the field?
The main thing is the equipment is getting more efficient. And another part is making the equipment flexible enough to accommodate cars of all different shapes. If I'm driving a Yukon or an Escalade as opposed to a Grand Am, the equipment needs to recognize that the vehicle is a different size and adjust.
6. Shouldn't car-wash owners encourage their employees not to touch customers' heater or radio settings?
I have experienced it myself; it's like an invasion of privacy. It's a minor thing but it's still an intrusion on privacy. I think all wash owners would be well served by reminding their employees not to do that.
7. Can you really make a good living working at the car wash? Is it better than diggin' a ditch?
Absolutely. The typical wash does 60,000 washes a year. If you're looking at $8 or $10 a wash, that's not a small business by any stretch. The people doing the wash, they're at the ground level. You have to start somewhere. You get work experience for future opportunities.
8. Do you work with the auto companies to make car washes easier on cars?
When we get reports in from our operators that there may be some faulty mirror, trim or antennae with a vehicle, we'll alert the automaker. We wouldn't wash Grand Ams for a while because the driver's side mirror, the screws that went into the door, weren't strong enough. In some cases, the wraps would grab and loosen the mirror. It wasn't because the wraps were doing something wrong. GM fixed that.
9. What do you drive, and how often do you get it washed?
I drive a 2004 Yukon. ... This time of year, I probably shoot for every 10 days, usually three to four times a month.
10. Do you always get the underbody flush, or do you cheap out like I do and just get the basic cleaning?
It depends, to be very honest with you. If I've been driving on dirt roads to visit my stepson, I'll have to follow that up with a high-end comprehensive wash because the wheel wells get dirty. It depends on the level of crud that's on the car.
More than 250 exhibitors will be at the car-wash expo 11 a.m.-6 p.m. today and 11 a.m.-4 p.m. Wednesday. Admission is $15 if you're not a member of the MCA. For information, go to www.midwestcarwash.com
Contact MATT HELMS at driving@freepress.com -- e-mail is best -- or leave a message at 313-222-1450. Be sure to include your full name, the city where you live and day and evening phone numbers for verification.
Good stuff.
Looks like we should have got into the real estate game . . . about 15 years ago! Those farmers on the outskirts of the cluster are sitting real pretty. Another reason why it may be good to look around at an existing business w/property?
Anyway, the car wash consultant Paul sent me consultant schedule.
We should probably see what else may pop up from the real estate person before scheduling a conf. call. Get all the options out on the table. Let me know what you think.
His minimum is two hours at $250 a pop.
Looks like we should have got into the real estate game . . . about 15 years ago! Those farmers on the outskirts of the cluster are sitting real pretty. Another reason why it may be good to look around at an existing business w/property?
Anyway, the car wash consultant Paul sent me consultant schedule.
We should probably see what else may pop up from the real estate person before scheduling a conf. call. Get all the options out on the table. Let me know what you think.
His minimum is two hours at $250 a pop.
Cool.
I read the story about Cabelas going into Rogers.
Maybe it would be better to form a land speculation company specializing in future Clusters
versus screwing around with a freaking car wash!
The problem is land only provides no C-A-S-H.
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I read the story about Cabelas going into Rogers.
Maybe it would be better to form a land speculation company specializing in future Clusters
versus screwing around with a freaking car wash!
The problem is land only provides no C-A-S-H.
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